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Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead
by Viviane in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

That, IMHO, is where higher education helps. It is difficult to get a Master's degree, and impossible to get a doctorate, without understanding and practicing the science of research.
Hmmm, and then along came Dr. Monica Applewhite to completely undermine the perceived value of a higher education. Was she too busy to really examine WT practices and the damaging results? Did WT offer enough money that she looked past the damage that would result from JC procedures? Were the other organizations she has worked with so terrible that the WT procedures looked wonderful? Is the deception of WT so successful that she really thought a collection of dimwits as seen on the RC would be able to handle child abuse cases correctly?
So many questions... so few answers.
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Royal Commission Live Hearing Now
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

case study 29, july 2015, sydney.
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

w13 2/15 pp. 22-24 - The Watchtower—2013
Our choice of associates.

Of course, some contact with unbelievers—such as at school, at work, and when sharing in the ministry—is unavoidable. It is quite another matter, though, to socialize with them, even cultivating close friendships with them. Do we justify such association by saying that they have many good qualities? “Do not be misled,” warns the Bible. “Bad associations spoil useful habits.” (1 Cor. 15:33) Just as a small amount of pollution can contaminate clean water, friendship with those who do not practice godly devotion can contaminate our spirituality and lead us into adopting worldly viewpoints, dress, speech, and conduct.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

the same line of reasoning is used in the Greek scriptures
The Greek scriptures say not to lie, to protect the little sheep, to look after orphans and widows, and to be obedient to governments and authorities--WT doesn't do that, so why do they care about the 2 witness rule?
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

I wonder if they let a woman check that or the dirty older men had to according to scriptural procedures
It's always the older men of the city that do the pelvic exams of the validity of virginity, of course. The women are all at home making dinner for the menfolk... you know, to keep the women busy so they aren't all gossiping.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

what's the difference? a rape is a rape
DO NOT ANGER THE BRONZE AGE DESERT GOD WITH YOUR IMPERTINENCE! If the girl is a virgin and engaged, she is already "sold". If the girl is a virgin and not engaged, she's for sale to the first rapist.
That's why parents would get their daughters engaged as soon as they were born.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Dumplin, The rapist dies only if he rapes a married or engaged woman. If he rapes a non-engaged virgin, he buys her as a sex slave. So maybe he already has several wives and the girl is only 12, yes she now becomes his next wive for the bargain price of a slave, 50 silver shekels. There is no provision for divorce, ever. Pretty sick, eh?
I recall that it's in the case of a married woman, they have to be found by another witness. In the case of engaged or non-engaged virgin, it is the "evidence of virginity" that is taken into account. Earlier in Deut 22:20,21 if there isn't "evidence of virginity" a girl will be stoned.
And remember if a woman is raped in the city but doesn't scream, she will also be stoned.
Maybe Angus could ask one of the WT geniuses to explain that.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

So many times you see him trying to promote what he sees as the positive aspects of the borg.
Well, WT does probably have some of the best dressed and well-groomed pedophiles of all organizations!
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

If WT is going to stick to the Bible requirement for 2 witnesses, wouldn't they also stick to the Bible requirement at Deut. 22:28,29 that the victim be forced to marry her rapist? Or does WT pick and choose which Bronze Age laws to obey?
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This applegate is she an expert witness
by poopie in
1. jw
2. friends
your opinion
Billy the Ex-Bethelite

She is paid to write reports and trot into courts saying, "[insert name here] is doing a wonderful job protecting children." She collects her money. Children continue to get abused.
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Royal Commission live Today
by LostinJapan in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
tuesday 4 _ .

case study 29 .
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The one thing that doesn't change for WT procedure:
- Call the branch FIRST! (And if there's no answer, try again Monday morning.)

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Our choice of associates.